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	<title>Comments on: Revisiting &#8220;Indemnify and Hold Harmless&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Ken Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike: I wrote about the historical roots of redundant synonyms in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adamsdrafting.com/2009/04/20/historical-roots-redundant-synonyms/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this April 2009 blog post&lt;/a&gt;. I&#039;d be interested to know when &lt;em&gt;indemnify and hold harmless&lt;/em&gt; were first joined; it may have happened after English had prevailed as the language used by the legal profession in England. And of course we&#039;re hundreds of years past the point at which the two-languages approach had any utility. Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: I wrote about the historical roots of redundant synonyms in <a href="http://www.adamsdrafting.com/2009/04/20/historical-roots-redundant-synonyms/" rel="nofollow">this April 2009 blog post</a>. I&#8217;d be interested to know when <em>indemnify and hold harmless</em> were first joined; it may have happened after English had prevailed as the language used by the legal profession in England. And of course we&#8217;re hundreds of years past the point at which the two-languages approach had any utility. Ken</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Naughton</title>
		<link>http://www.adamsdrafting.com/2009/05/10/revisiting-indemnify-and-hold-harmless/comment-page-1/#comment-93503</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Naughton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that &quot;Indemnify and hold harmless&quot; is just another vestige from when contracts were written in both Law French/Latin (&quot;indemnify&quot;) and Middle English (&quot;hold harmless&quot;).  

Despite the tendency of attorneys to try to attach meaning to this type of duplication, the re-statement doesn&#039;t reflect any intention to make a distinction or add additional thoughts.  It&#039;s no more or less significant than a sticker on a bag with the words &quot;trash&quot; and &quot;basura.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that &#8220;Indemnify and hold harmless&#8221; is just another vestige from when contracts were written in both Law French/Latin (&#8220;indemnify&#8221;) and Middle English (&#8220;hold harmless&#8221;).  </p>
<p>Despite the tendency of attorneys to try to attach meaning to this type of duplication, the re-statement doesn&#8217;t reflect any intention to make a distinction or add additional thoughts.  It&#8217;s no more or less significant than a sticker on a bag with the words &#8220;trash&#8221; and &#8220;basura.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack: What you understand those terms to mean is, unfortunately, irrelevant. The question is, what does the world at large understand them to mean? That&#039;s why things get ugly. Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack: What you understand those terms to mean is, unfortunately, irrelevant. The question is, what does the world at large understand them to mean? That&#8217;s why things get ugly. Ken</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always understood the terms to refer to three separate but related concepts. If I agree to indmenify you, I am promising to reimburse you for amounts you have already paid. If I agree to hold you harmless, I am promising to pay those amounts first, so you don&#039;t have to. If I agree to defend you, I am promising to provide you with counsel at my expense. (I should have citations to back this up, but I don&#039;t.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always understood the terms to refer to three separate but related concepts. If I agree to indmenify you, I am promising to reimburse you for amounts you have already paid. If I agree to hold you harmless, I am promising to pay those amounts first, so you don&#8217;t have to. If I agree to defend you, I am promising to provide you with counsel at my expense. (I should have citations to back this up, but I don&#8217;t.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Adams</title>
		<link>http://www.adamsdrafting.com/2009/05/10/revisiting-indemnify-and-hold-harmless/comment-page-1/#comment-89275</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 15:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim: I don&#039;t share at all your confidence in &lt;em&gt;indemnify, defend and hold harmless&lt;/em&gt;. Why use language that routinely results in lawsuits, not to mention wildly diverging judicial interpretations? Of course, not relying on jargon results in longer indemnification provisions. So be it. Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim: I don&#8217;t share at all your confidence in <em>indemnify, defend and hold harmless</em>. Why use language that routinely results in lawsuits, not to mention wildly diverging judicial interpretations? Of course, not relying on jargon results in longer indemnification provisions. So be it. Ken</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Brashear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Brashear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 14:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarity would favor indemnity provisions that describe in reasonable detail the procedures for defending indemnified claims. In some cases, the provisions address the types of costs explicitly, sometimes because of local law requirements (e.g., attorneys&#039; fees in NY).

I have, however, often encountered clients (particularly in a sales context) who prefer a much shorter version of the indemnity provision. In that case, &quot;indemnify, defend and hold harmless&quot; seems to succinctly convey the intent - even though it is jargon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarity would favor indemnity provisions that describe in reasonable detail the procedures for defending indemnified claims. In some cases, the provisions address the types of costs explicitly, sometimes because of local law requirements (e.g., attorneys&#8217; fees in NY).</p>
<p>I have, however, often encountered clients (particularly in a sales context) who prefer a much shorter version of the indemnity provision. In that case, &#8220;indemnify, defend and hold harmless&#8221; seems to succinctly convey the intent &#8211; even though it is jargon.</p>
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