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		<title>By: Christian</title>
		<link>http://www.adamsdrafting.com/2009/06/30/because-and-causation-issues-in-contracts/comment-page-1/#comment-92636</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Not only because&quot; would then be contradictory too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not only because&#8221; would then be contradictory too.</p>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;but for&quot; test does not necessarily imply only a single cause. There may, say, 5 factors relevant to the occurrence of Event X. Let us say that the absence of any of them would have meant that Event X would not have happened - each of the 5 would satisfy the &quot;but for&quot; test.

If, however, Event X would have happened in the absence of one factor BUT would not have happened in the absence of, say, any 3 of them, has each of one those factors &quot;caused&quot; Event X? None of them satisfy the &quot;but for&quot; test, but all contribute (and that I think is the question the Supreme Court had to decide). What if there are not 5 factors, but 5,000, the absence of any 3,000 of which would have prevented Event X happening? Does any one factor cause Event X?

Regarding their decision, the Supreme Court did not look at the word &quot;because&quot; out of context. They looked at the statute and what it was trying to implement; they looked at other phrases used by legislators. They would not, I think, deny that &quot;because&quot; can be used in the ways Neal suggests (though it is not clear in all cases which meaning the passages he quotes are using, further to my first point) - they just decided that, in this statute, that was not the meaning intended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;but for&#8221; test does not necessarily imply only a single cause. There may, say, 5 factors relevant to the occurrence of Event X. Let us say that the absence of any of them would have meant that Event X would not have happened &#8211; each of the 5 would satisfy the &#8220;but for&#8221; test.</p>
<p>If, however, Event X would have happened in the absence of one factor BUT would not have happened in the absence of, say, any 3 of them, has each of one those factors &#8220;caused&#8221; Event X? None of them satisfy the &#8220;but for&#8221; test, but all contribute (and that I think is the question the Supreme Court had to decide). What if there are not 5 factors, but 5,000, the absence of any 3,000 of which would have prevented Event X happening? Does any one factor cause Event X?</p>
<p>Regarding their decision, the Supreme Court did not look at the word &#8220;because&#8221; out of context. They looked at the statute and what it was trying to implement; they looked at other phrases used by legislators. They would not, I think, deny that &#8220;because&#8221; can be used in the ways Neal suggests (though it is not clear in all cases which meaning the passages he quotes are using, further to my first point) &#8211; they just decided that, in this statute, that was not the meaning intended.</p>
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		<title>By: Neal Goldfarb</title>
		<link>http://www.adamsdrafting.com/2009/06/30/because-and-causation-issues-in-contracts/comment-page-1/#comment-92617</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal Goldfarb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that this helps much with drafting issues, but the Supreme Court was way off base in saying that the notion of but-for causation is somehow inherent in the meaning of the  word &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt;.

If the Court were right, it would follow that in sentences where &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; appears, there could only be one &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; per result. Because if there were two &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt;s, with each one referring to a separate cause, neither one would be a but-for cause. And if &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; really means &lt;i&gt;beBUT_FORcause&lt;/i&gt;, the sentence would be self-contradictory.

But it turns out that people don’t limit themselves to one &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; per result, as these examples from the web show:

&lt;blockquote&gt;For years I’ve been an avid canner. Not because I have an orchard and need to do something with the bushels and bushels of apricots, but because I love stashing stuff away for another day, and because I never buy what I actually need at the market–I always end up buying what looks good. [&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.denverpost.com/preserved/2009/02/02/welcome-to-well-preserved/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;]

I used to drink tons of coffee, and I was a chocoholic LOL!!!! It was pretty agonizing to go off of all caffeine, but I did it because of panic attacks, and because of high blood pressure. [&lt;a href=&quot;http://bphope.ning.com/forum/topics/does-anyone-else-feel-that&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;]

Timing technology advances is critical to survival. Temple says he&#039;s just switched from Avid to Final Cut Studio. &quot;I did it because of cost and because Avid hasn&#039;t been very innovative recently. [&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.waterfrog.com/articles/icommag%20article/production%20companies%20fuel%20projects%20with%20revenue%20-%20icom%20magazine.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;]

They did it because they didn’t care, and because they didn’t know the difference between right and wrong. [&lt;a href=&quot;http://conservativehome.blogs.com/torydiary/2006/11/absent_fathers_.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

These sentences don’t seem self-contradictory, do they? And of course there’s this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Now your dancing child with the Chinese suit
He spoke to me I took his flute
No I wasnt very cute to him, was I?
But I did it because he lied,
Because he took you for a ride,
And because time was on his side
And because I&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Many more examples can be found by running this Google search (keeping the quotation marks):
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;it because * and because&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Or try this search in Westlaw:
&lt;blockquote&gt;(&quot;did it because&quot; &quot;did so because&quot; &quot;do so because&quot; &quot;so hold because&quot; &quot;said so because&quot;) +10 &quot;and because&quot;}&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that this helps much with drafting issues, but the Supreme Court was way off base in saying that the notion of but-for causation is somehow inherent in the meaning of the  word <i>because</i>.</p>
<p>If the Court were right, it would follow that in sentences where <i>because</i> appears, there could only be one <i>because</i> per result. Because if there were two <i>because</i>s, with each one referring to a separate cause, neither one would be a but-for cause. And if <i>because</i> really means <i>beBUT_FORcause</i>, the sentence would be self-contradictory.</p>
<p>But it turns out that people don’t limit themselves to one <i>because</i> per result, as these examples from the web show:</p>
<blockquote><p>For years I’ve been an avid canner. Not because I have an orchard and need to do something with the bushels and bushels of apricots, but because I love stashing stuff away for another day, and because I never buy what I actually need at the market–I always end up buying what looks good. [<a href="http://blogs.denverpost.com/preserved/2009/02/02/welcome-to-well-preserved/" rel="nofollow">link</a>]</p>
<p>I used to drink tons of coffee, and I was a chocoholic LOL!!!! It was pretty agonizing to go off of all caffeine, but I did it because of panic attacks, and because of high blood pressure. [<a href="http://bphope.ning.com/forum/topics/does-anyone-else-feel-that" rel="nofollow">link</a>]</p>
<p>Timing technology advances is critical to survival. Temple says he&#8217;s just switched from Avid to Final Cut Studio. &#8220;I did it because of cost and because Avid hasn&#8217;t been very innovative recently. [<a href="http://www.waterfrog.com/articles/icommag%20article/production%20companies%20fuel%20projects%20with%20revenue%20-%20icom%20magazine.htm" rel="nofollow">link</a>]</p>
<p>They did it because they didn’t care, and because they didn’t know the difference between right and wrong. [<a href="http://conservativehome.blogs.com/torydiary/2006/11/absent_fathers_.html" rel="nofollow">link</a>]</p></blockquote>
<p>These sentences don’t seem self-contradictory, do they? And of course there’s this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Now your dancing child with the Chinese suit<br />
He spoke to me I took his flute<br />
No I wasnt very cute to him, was I?<br />
But I did it because he lied,<br />
Because he took you for a ride,<br />
And because time was on his side<br />
And because I</p></blockquote>
<p>Many more examples can be found by running this Google search (keeping the quotation marks):</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;it because * and because&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Or try this search in Westlaw:</p>
<blockquote><p>(&#8220;did it because&#8221; &#8220;did so because&#8221; &#8220;do so because&#8221; &#8220;so hold because&#8221; &#8220;said so because&#8221;) +10 &#8220;and because&#8221;}</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Chris Lemens</title>
		<link>http://www.adamsdrafting.com/2009/06/30/because-and-causation-issues-in-contracts/comment-page-1/#comment-92616</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Lemens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The place I see where causation being the least adequately addressed is in mutual indemnities in commercial deals. The problem is that the indemnities fail to handle the case of mutual causation, where both parties did something that caused the claim. The misdrafting of most indemnities I see mean that each party ends up indemnifying the other party for the claim against the other, so they essentially swap spots on the liability. This means that (a) both parties are still stuck in the case and (b) each party has the perverse incentive to claim that it screwed up, so that the other party has to pick up the tab. A better approach for mutual indemnities is to list the things that count as fault (breach, commission of a tort, violation of law, etc.) and then apportion liability by comparative fault.

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The place I see where causation being the least adequately addressed is in mutual indemnities in commercial deals. The problem is that the indemnities fail to handle the case of mutual causation, where both parties did something that caused the claim. The misdrafting of most indemnities I see mean that each party ends up indemnifying the other party for the claim against the other, so they essentially swap spots on the liability. This means that (a) both parties are still stuck in the case and (b) each party has the perverse incentive to claim that it screwed up, so that the other party has to pick up the tab. A better approach for mutual indemnities is to list the things that count as fault (breach, commission of a tort, violation of law, etc.) and then apportion liability by comparative fault.</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
		<link>http://www.adamsdrafting.com/2009/06/30/because-and-causation-issues-in-contracts/comment-page-1/#comment-92615</link>
		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a philosophical question as much as a semantic one—causation is a much debated topic, and there is no consensus (in legal or non-legal contexts) as to what causation actually is. I cannot think of any particular word that sidesteps the issue—&quot;because&quot;, &quot;due to&quot;, &quot;cause&quot;, &quot;resulting from&quot; and so on all have the same problem, though it would be great to hear of any concise suggestions for unambiguous words. All I can think of is using a lengthier explanation that makes clear that the &quot;but for&quot; test applies, or otherwise. [That&#039;s the only solution.—KAA]

I think this particular statute could validly be read either way. If I was a legislator, I would say that in the context of a discrimination statute it would make sense to apply the &quot;but for&quot; test, simply to be consistent with the principle that a person should be restored so far as possible to the position that they would have been in had the tort not been committed. However, I can appreciate the policy justification for the other view too, and I suspect that how one reads the statute&#039;s &quot;natural&quot; meaning depends largely on what one favours from a policy perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a philosophical question as much as a semantic one—causation is a much debated topic, and there is no consensus (in legal or non-legal contexts) as to what causation actually is. I cannot think of any particular word that sidesteps the issue—&#8221;because&#8221;, &#8220;due to&#8221;, &#8220;cause&#8221;, &#8220;resulting from&#8221; and so on all have the same problem, though it would be great to hear of any concise suggestions for unambiguous words. All I can think of is using a lengthier explanation that makes clear that the &#8220;but for&#8221; test applies, or otherwise. [That's the only solution.—KAA]</p>
<p>I think this particular statute could validly be read either way. If I was a legislator, I would say that in the context of a discrimination statute it would make sense to apply the &#8220;but for&#8221; test, simply to be consistent with the principle that a person should be restored so far as possible to the position that they would have been in had the tort not been committed. However, I can appreciate the policy justification for the other view too, and I suspect that how one reads the statute&#8217;s &#8220;natural&#8221; meaning depends largely on what one favours from a policy perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose &quot;caused by&quot; creates similar issues. And of course this language is a commonplace feature of business contracts, particularly some critical sections such as disclaimers, limitations of liability and indemnities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose &#8220;caused by&#8221; creates similar issues. And of course this language is a commonplace feature of business contracts, particularly some critical sections such as disclaimers, limitations of liability and indemnities.</p>
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