Comments on: “Drafting Up” and Extraneous Prepositions http://www.adamsdrafting.com/2009/07/21/drafting-up/ Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:23:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Ken Adams http://www.adamsdrafting.com/2009/07/21/drafting-up/comment-page-1/#comment-92756 Ken Adams Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:33:35 +0000 http://www.adamsdrafting.com/?p=996#comment-92756 Mirko: To <em>sign off on</em> something means to approve it, even without having actually signed anything. That's different from simply <em>signing</em> something. Ken Mirko: To sign off on something means to approve it, even without having actually signed anything. That’s different from simply signing something. Ken

]]> By: Mirko http://www.adamsdrafting.com/2009/07/21/drafting-up/comment-page-1/#comment-92755 Mirko Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:27:06 +0000 http://www.adamsdrafting.com/?p=996#comment-92755 Ken In correspondence with Americans I repeatedly come accross the verb "sign" followed by "off" in connection with the signing of legal documents. I though that "to sign off" means the same as "to sign" a contract/document. Am I correct? Mirko Ken

In correspondence with Americans I repeatedly come accross the verb “sign” followed by “off” in connection with the signing of legal documents. I though that “to sign off” means the same as “to sign” a contract/document. Am I correct?

Mirko

]]> By: Ken Adams http://www.adamsdrafting.com/2009/07/21/drafting-up/comment-page-1/#comment-92753 Ken Adams Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:18:44 +0000 http://www.adamsdrafting.com/?p=996#comment-92753 Jack: The <em>up</em> in <em>draft up</em> might indeed be borrowed from <em>draw up</em>, but that's just guesswork on my part. Robert: Whether any given <em>up</em> (or any other preposition associated with a verb) is gratuitous involves comparing the meanings with and without the preposition. I think that <em>mark up</em> has a much more specific meaning than just <em>mark</em>. Ken Jack: The up in draft up might indeed be borrowed from draw up, but that’s just guesswork on my part.

Robert: Whether any given up (or any other preposition associated with a verb) is gratuitous involves comparing the meanings with and without the preposition. I think that mark up has a much more specific meaning than just mark.

Ken

]]> By: Robert http://www.adamsdrafting.com/2009/07/21/drafting-up/comment-page-1/#comment-92750 Robert Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:05:13 +0000 http://www.adamsdrafting.com/?p=996#comment-92750 We commonly "mark up" documents to show changes which have been accepted or rejected. In that context I would have thought "marking up" would be OK. No? We commonly “mark up” documents to show changes which have been accepted or rejected. In that context I would have thought “marking up” would be OK. No?

]]> By: Jack http://www.adamsdrafting.com/2009/07/21/drafting-up/comment-page-1/#comment-92749 Jack Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:56:42 +0000 http://www.adamsdrafting.com/?p=996#comment-92749 Is "draft up" a vestige of the days when laywers would "draw up" a contract? Is “draft up” a vestige of the days when laywers would “draw up” a contract?

]]> By: Ken Adams http://www.adamsdrafting.com/2009/07/21/drafting-up/comment-page-1/#comment-92721 Ken Adams Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:23:03 +0000 http://www.adamsdrafting.com/?p=996#comment-92721 Brett: I don't think so, as adding <em>up</em> after <em>take</em> changes the meaning. If you delete <em>up</em> from the following sentence, it no longer makes senses: <em>Let's take up where he left off.</em> To see all the prepositions you can use with <em>take</em>, go to http://www.thefreedictionary.com/take. Ken Brett: I don’t think so, as adding up after take changes the meaning. If you delete up from the following sentence, it no longer makes senses: Let’s take up where he left off. To see all the prepositions you can use with take, go to http://www.thefreedictionary.com/take. Ken

]]> By: Brett http://www.adamsdrafting.com/2009/07/21/drafting-up/comment-page-1/#comment-92715 Brett Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:52:31 +0000 http://www.adamsdrafting.com/?p=996#comment-92715 It would seem that "take up" falls into such a category. It would seem that “take up” falls into such a category.

]]> By: Ken Adams http://www.adamsdrafting.com/2009/07/21/drafting-up/comment-page-1/#comment-92713 Ken Adams Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:23:21 +0000 http://www.adamsdrafting.com/?p=996#comment-92713 David: You can use a range of prepositions with any number of verbs (such as <em>run</em>), with the meaning changing drastically with each preposition. But that's a different matter than the urge to tack on prepositions without changing meaning. Ken David: You can use a range of prepositions with any number of verbs (such as run), with the meaning changing drastically with each preposition. But that’s a different matter than the urge to tack on prepositions without changing meaning. Ken

]]> By: David Scrimshaw http://www.adamsdrafting.com/2009/07/21/drafting-up/comment-page-1/#comment-92712 David Scrimshaw Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:08:49 +0000 http://www.adamsdrafting.com/?p=996#comment-92712 It seems interesting to me that "write" can be followed with "up", "down" and "out". I was thinking that "down" and "out" wouldn't also go with "draft", but Google turns up a fair number of hits on "drafting out" and "draft out", but they seem to be more in context of drawings than contracts. It seems interesting to me that “write” can be followed with “up”, “down” and “out”.

I was thinking that “down” and “out” wouldn’t also go with “draft”, but Google turns up a fair number of hits on “drafting out” and “draft out”, but they seem to be more in context of drawings than contracts.

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